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Ilindenova, I have had it with your STUPIDITY!!!!
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Yannis the Macedonian
2003-11-29 21:17:19 UTC
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Ricopal
This is actually true. Graekia and the Graekioi were established names
(of
the area of Dodona and its inhabitants) before the term Hellene came into
widespread use in the 7th century BC. The term Hellenes is only
mentioned
twice in the Iliad, it is probably a later interpolation, and refers only
to
the followers of Achilles. Actually, the term "Hellene" is most likely
not
a Greek word.
ADR
The term Hellene is Greek. It is the word Selloi that has lost its first s.
This was done almost for all Greek words that has s as first letter before
a vowel.
Surpisingly Chinese call us Selanoi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The word Selloi is related to the words selas, selini ( selnvn=moon), elana
( the candle in Macedonian), elios ( sun) ...
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Anastassios Retzios
2003-11-30 16:37:56 UTC
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Not correct, but never mind. In fact, Hellene was pronounced closer to the
current English pronunciation of the word, with a "high e" and not with
"se". So, no the word did not evolve from the original root of the word
"light".
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
Ricopal
This is actually true. Graekia and the Graekioi were established names
(of
the area of Dodona and its inhabitants) before the term Hellene came into
widespread use in the 7th century BC. The term Hellenes is only
mentioned
twice in the Iliad, it is probably a later interpolation, and refers only
to
the followers of Achilles. Actually, the term "Hellene" is most likely
not
a Greek word.
ADR
The term Hellene is Greek. It is the word Selloi that has lost its first s.
This was done almost for all Greek words that has s as first letter before
a vowel.
Surpisingly Chinese call us Selanoi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The word Selloi is related to the words selas, selini ( selnvn=moon), elana
( the candle in Macedonian), elios ( sun) ...
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Yannis the Macedonian
2003-11-30 17:09:42 UTC
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Post by Anastassios Retzios
Not correct, but never mind. In fact, Hellene was pronounced closer to the
current English pronunciation of the word, with a "high e" and not with
"se". So, no the word did not evolve from the original root of the word
"light".
Aristoteles Meteorologika:
"þêïõí ãáñ åíôáýèá (Äùäþíç) ïé Ãñáéêïß êáé ïé êáëïýìåíïé ôüôå ìåí Óåëëïß
íõí äå žëëçíåò".
"wkoun gar entau8a (Dodona) oi Graikoi kai oi kaloumenoi tote men Selloi
nun de Ellines"
" The inhabitants of the area ( Dodona) were Graikoi and the people that
were called then Selloi and today are called Hellenes"


I need no further arguments to believe that Hellenes = Selloi < selas =
light
Anyway, I wrote long time ago that very earlier in history Greeks aborted s
when was the first letter of a word when followed by a vowel. They
transformed this s into an aspiration ( daseia). Syper became yper, sepomai
( follow) became epomai .... ( One of the SlavoSkopian supporters'
argument is that Macedonians did not reject that s. Of course they are
wrong).
When Romans heard them later, they added that h as they did for all
aspirated Greek words. Just as there is hyper and super !! Thus we have
Hellene that is closer to the Greek pronunciation instead of Sellene.
Your objection above is stupid of course.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
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Post by Anastassios Retzios
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
The term Hellene is Greek. It is the word Selloi that has lost its first s.
This was done almost for all Greek words that has s as first letter before
a vowel.
Surpisingly Chinese call us Selanoi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The word Selloi is related to the words selas, selini ( selnvn=moon),
elana ( the candle in Macedonian), elios ( sun) ...
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
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