Retzios lies, there never was and there is no "Greek Macedonia"

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"Zhivko Apostolovski" <***@mail2me.com.au>wrote:
American Commission to Negotiate Peace. CONFIDENTIAL: PROTEST AGAINST THE
PRESENT SHARING OF MACEDONIA BETWEEN HER NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE GREEKS ARE
ONLY A MINORITY THEY AND SERVIANS HARDLY EXIST. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY
OF THE INHABITANTS (90%) DESIRE THE CREATION OF AN AUTONOMOUS STATE UNDER
THE PROTECTION OF THE ALLIED GREAT POWERS, ORGANIZED LIKE THE SWISS
CANTONS. THE AUTONOMY OF MACEDONIA WAS MADE POPULAR BY THE HOME
REVOLUTIONARY ORGANIZATION AND WAS ADMITTED BY BULGARIA, GREECE AND SERVIA
AT THE TIME OF THEIR ULTIMATUM TO TURKEY IN 1912(Paris, France, , 1919: S-H
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I think that Dame Gruev was more clear:
http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/documents/ilinden.htm
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"Zhivko Apostolovski" <***@mail2me.com.au> wrote:
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Post by Yannis the Macedonian
http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/documents/ilinden.htm
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

Now you are advertising bugaroman forgeries, grkoman. Anything to aide

your

anti Macedonian propganda.

What propaganda bre Vlaka;
The letter is not true ??
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"WolfWolf" <***@email.net> wrote:
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Can you tell me which language they were speaking?
WolfWolf
The Idiot

SlavoSkopian, ex Bugarian. There are 5000 voters in Greece that speak
SlavoSkopian. ALL of them !!
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

Post by Yannis the Macedonian
SlavoSkopian

No such language, bre malaka!

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WolfWolf
The Vlaka

Idiot !
What part of the word is that hard to understand ? Slav or Skopian ?
Perisan.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"WolfWolf" <***@email.net> wrote:
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My Swedish friend told me that his friends in Cherso spoke a "forbidden

language".

Which language could that be, Tassos, expert of Macedonia and All Greece?

...................................

WolfWolf
The Vlakas

None. There is no forbidden language in Greece.
But some people are afraid to speak SlavoSkopian due to the past.
In Florina's squares you may hear that language spoken loudly. many people
think that it is Russian for there are many refugees from Russia. One needs
to have special education to distinguish the language from Bulgarian.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

Is there any reference to those ethnic SlavoSkopians before 1850??
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece




"Zhivko Apostolovski" <***@mail2me.com.au> wrote:
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ORIGINAL U.S. SECRET DIPLOMATIC DOCUMENT USED AT THE 1919 WORLD PEACE
CONFERENCE

American Commission to Negotiate Peace. CONFIDENTIAL: PROTEST AGAINST THE
PRESENT SHARING OF MACEDONIA BETWEEN HER NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE GREEKS ARE
ONLY A MINORITY THEY AND SERVIANS HARDLY EXIST. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY
OF THE INHABITANTS (90%) DESIRE THE CREATION OF AN AUTONOMOUS STATE UNDER
THE PROTECTION OF THE ALLIED GREAT POWERS, ORGANIZED LIKE THE SWISS
CANTONS. THE AUTONOMY OF MACEDONIA WAS MADE POPULAR BY THE HOME
REVOLUTIONARY ORGANIZATION AND WAS ADMITTED BY BULGARIA, GREECE AND SERVIA
AT THE TIME OF THEIR ULTIMATUM TO TURKEY IN 1912(Paris, France, , 1919:
S-..........................................

[Yannis the Macedonian]

The description is true.
But is there any reference to those ethnic SlavoSkopians before lets say
1850??
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece




"Zhivko Apostolovski" <***@mail2me.com.au> wrote:
Don't doctor the document, moronic LIAR (delete parts which are hurtful to
the greek propaganda, such as the part which states "there is only a very
small Greek population in Macedonia").

This is what precedes the excerpt with which you are hiding the truth:

The document offered here, deaccessioned long ago by the Hoover archives at
Stanford University, was once
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[Yannis the Macedonian]

"WolfWolf" <***@email.net> wrote:
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"The Thessalians in particular wore long robes, probably because they of

all the

Greeks lived in the most northerly and coldest region" [11.14.12].
As Macedonia is located north of Thessaly it is obviously not a part of

Greece, nor

the Macedonians were Greeks, for the most northerly Greeks were already

the

Thessalians.
WolfWolf
The Vlakas

Lets hope that there are some moments of spiritual sanity in your life.
Strabo wrote " Estin oun Ellas kai h Makedonia" that is "So, Macedonia is
definitely Greece"
Do you see a contradiction? Me, no !
But let me help you to get over it:
Until Strabo, Macedonia and Greece were two different places for all
Greeks. The same was for Ionia. Ionians were Greeks (until 1922) but Ionia
wasn't Greece. So Strabo that knew that Macedonians were Greeks wrote that
it would be right to include Macedonia into Greece.
Do you have another explanation of Strabo's 'contradiction' ??
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"WolfWolf" <***@email.net> wrote:
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Do you have any explanation for your own contradiction, Jovanche?
You claim to be a Macedonian AND Greek, which is tantamount to saying

that you're

Italian AND Chinese, which doesn't work.
Actually, we know that you originate from Izmir in Anatolia, so you're a

Turk in

Denial.
WolfWolf
The Vlakas

Macedonians gave Greek names to ALL the cities they built or renamed !!
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[palinurus]

Philip II of Macedon was allowed to enter the Olympic Games, and won an
event with his horses in 356 BC. This implies eventual recognition by the
more southern city-states that Macedonians were genuine Greeks. But it was a
grudging recognition, and a failure in its attempt to deter hostile action
later. Demosthenes was not at all impressed.

palinurus

[Anastassios Retzios]

Post by palinurus
Philip II of Macedon was allowed to enter the Olympic Games, and won an
event with his horses in 356 BC. This implies eventual recognition by the
more southern city-states that Macedonians were genuine Greeks. But it was a
grudging recognition, and a failure in its attempt to deter hostile action
later. Demosthenes was not at all impressed.
palinurus

First of all, this is wrong. Alexander I competed in the Olympics 150
years before Philip II and the story is fully covered by Herodotus.
Between Alexander I and Philip II, there is a whole series of
contestants and quite a number of victors from Macedonia.

Participation in the Olympics was a right for Philip and Athens could
not have been involved for such "recognition" to deter hostile action
because decisions to accept athletes were made by the Hellanodikai,
not Athenians. The conflict was unavoidable because of the competing
interests of Athens and Macedonia.

ADR

[Yannis the Macedonian]

Cara, my parents are Macedonian 100% they speak Macedonian, do you know

my

parents? did you meet them? When was the last time you spoke to them?
Ilinden the SlavoSkopian

Tell us about any Euripides' tragedy that was played at Pella, Macedonia
around -400. Was it in SlavoSkopian or Greek??
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

[Yannis the Macedonian]

"WolfWolf" <***@email.net> wrote:
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Panajoti, WolfWolf IS European, much earlier and with much more

background than you

can ever dream of.
WolfWolf
The MALAKAS

A European that says that the decision of ECHR for Titina was 'political' ?
Abre bezaveng !
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece