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FR:LYNGOS RE: DO NOT WRITE MACEDONIAN
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Yannis the Macedonian
2004-07-17 20:36:19 UTC
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"Nikolay" <***@msn.com> wrote:
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I do not understand You Macedonians, nobody argue now you are
Macedonians why you keep looking in the past to find your 'roots'
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Hey, wait a minute, this is exactly what we Greeks argue about !!
The term Macedonian, thanks to ancient Macedonians that spread Greek
Language and Civilization to the World, had and has clear meaning: it
refers to a Greek from Macedonia.
It is proud label for all Greeks in Macedonia. It is our (tribal) local
identity. We won't share it with any non-Greek. They (SlavoSkopians) are
not Macedonians because they cannot be proud of ancient Macedonians because
they made the "mistake" ( as a SlavoSkopian propagandist told me) to spread
Greek Language and Civilization to the World.
They can use the term Macedonian ONLY in its geographic meaning, as you
Bulgarians do. But then they need an ethnic name.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Nikolay
2004-07-18 05:35:57 UTC
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Post by Yannis the Macedonian
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I do not understand You Macedonians, nobody argue now you are
Macedonians why you keep looking in the past to find your 'roots'
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Hey, wait a minute, this is exactly what we Greeks argue about !!
The term Macedonian, thanks to ancient Macedonians that spread Greek
Language and Civilization to the World, had and has clear meaning: it
refers to a Greek from Macedonia.
Or for Macedonian group of tribes (most likely Hellenic).
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
It is proud label for all Greeks in Macedonia. It is our (tribal) local
identity. We won't share it with any non-Greek. They (SlavoSkopians) are
not Macedonians because they cannot be proud of ancient Macedonians because
they made the "mistake" ( as a SlavoSkopian propagandist told me) to spread
Greek Language and Civilization to the World.
Obviously no Blaze to tell them how to fight propaganda.
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
They can use the term Macedonian ONLY in its geographic meaning, as you
Bulgarians do. But then they need an ethnic name.
For Bulgarians it is Regional. But the guys in Scopje are no more
Bulgarians - at least as of now they do not feel Bulgarians - it is a
true, unfortunately.
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Yannis the Macedonian
2004-07-18 13:13:45 UTC
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Post by Nikolay
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
Hey, wait a minute, this is exactly what we Greeks argue about !!
The term Macedonian, thanks to ancient Macedonians that spread Greek
Language and Civilization to the World, had and has clear meaning: it
refers to a Greek from Macedonia.
Or for Macedonian group of tribes (most likely Hellenic).
When Macedonians wanted, they included in the term Macedonian peoples that
were not, in order to have their help or sympathy. But they knew that they
were Greeks. Filotas, Alexander's general, humiliated Volon the Phrygian
which wanted to pass as Macedonian! The same we Macedonians are doing
rightfully for those SlavoSkopian clowns that want to pass as Macedonian
while they are Macedonian nothing.
Post by Nikolay
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
It is proud label for all Greeks in Macedonia. It is our (tribal) local
identity. We won't share it with any non-Greek. They (SlavoSkopians) are
not Macedonians because they cannot be proud of ancient Macedonians because
they made the "mistake" ( as a SlavoSkopian propagandist told me) to spread
Greek Language and Civilization to the World.
Obviously no Blaze to tell them how to fight propaganda.
We hope in the future. They cannot still being hided from the information
current that surrounds an open society. They will learn some day.
Post by Nikolay
Post by Yannis the Macedonian
They can use the term Macedonian ONLY in its geographic meaning, as you
Bulgarians do. But then they need an ethnic name.
For Bulgarians it is Regional. But the guys in Scopje are no more
Bulgarians - at least as of now they do not feel Bulgarians - it is a
true, unfortunately.
Yes, guys in Skopje are no more Bulgarians. This doesn't make them
Macedonians. None can be Macedonian in an ethnic manner if he is not proud
of that campaign that Macedonians did to spread Greek Language and
Civilization to the World.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Yannis the Macedonian
2004-07-18 13:02:20 UTC
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I have posted before immigration records in which the people coming into
New York claimed themselves Macedonians from Macedonia, even before
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original . People know who they are. For another relatively early
report, see some of the eyewitness reports of Edith Durham, who goes
into great detail about the differences between Macedonians and other
folk. She liked Serbs, she loved Albanians and Montenegrins, and didn't
like Macedonians very much although she worked at relief in Macedonia.
She and other turn of the century travellers knew who people were as
well. There is plenty of evidence. Only you don't like it.
Is she really that blind or she is pretending to be because she is the most
pathetic SlavoSkopian propagandist ??

People that declared themselves as Macedonians at those times could not
answer to the question "what is Macedonian on you??" just like modern
SlavoSkopians, including Galinitsa. Dear Galinitsa, what is Macedonian on
you ??
The order "write no Macedonian but Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian,....." was
given at 1910, when Macedonia was occupied by Ottomans.

There is plenty of evidence that Macedonians were always Greeks. But
Galinitsa, just like many other pathetic SlavoSkopian propagandists don't
like it. They pretend that ancient Macedonians cannot be related to the
modern ones! Good Lord !
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Yannis the Macedonian
2004-07-18 22:33:47 UTC
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"++" <***@erols.com> wrote:...
unresponsive.Ê Poeple knew, continued to know and still know who they are.
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Of course ! They knew they were Bulgarians. This is exactly what their
leaders told them: Mihailov, Misirkov, Delcev, Gruev, Miladinov, ..... all
of them.
Bre Galinitsa, have you ever read that letter that Gruev sent to Sofia? :
http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/documents/ilinden.htm
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece
Yannis the Macedonian
2004-07-18 22:36:41 UTC
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"Ilinden" <***@sympatico.ca> wrote:...
Tsapanesku , you have to correlate your ideas with the facts.
Ilinden the SlavoSkopian


Very easy my chum:
Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect
and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World. Thus they were
Greeks.
Macedonians gave Greek names to ALL the cities they built or renamed. Thus
they were Greeks.
Macedonians defended their Greekness successfully while
Bulgarian-SlavoSkopian violent attempt to slavicize them. Thus they were
Greeks.
Macedonians still defending their tribal name against SlavoSkopian attempt
to peculate it in order to peculate our fame and glory. Thus they are
Greeks.
NO MACEDONIA FOR THE SLAVOSKOPIANS !!
The meaning of the term Macedonian as a Greek from Macedonia will never
change within Greece or reasoning.
Yannis
Macedonia, Greece

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